Asmara-Der neue von Skyforce

    Das übersetze ich mal, bevor ich das ins erste Posting klebe:
    Mittelkreuz 1 cm hochsetzen, Querspreizen etwa 1,5 cm kürzen. Gewicht dann zwischen 5 und 10 Gramm.
    Lazy Susans verbessern sich, (ich vermute mal, der Backflip wird tiefer, d.h. in Multilazies bleibt der Drachen besser liegen).
    Braucht einen etwas stärkeren Impuls für Backspins und etwas mehr Slack für Yoyos.
    Erik

    "Kann ich bitte Deine Kekse haben?"

    @ Skyforce: Just a quick question regarding the length of the stand-offs. Is the length in the plans without fittings or is it meassured as the distance between lower spreader and sail or ? I will be using APAs for spreader fittings and R-sky for the sail, and especially the R-sky fittings make the stand-offs longer when installed.


    Regarding the modification of the center-T placement, should the position of the lower spreader fittings on the leading edge also be moved (closer to the nose) ?


    Thanks in advance


    Best regards


    ;) Morten

    Zitat

    should the position of the lower spreader fittings on the leading edge also be moved (closer to the nose) ?


    I think YES; otherwise the lower spreader should become longer and not shorter (1-1.5 cm).


    Gruss
    koebi-lee

    "Perhaps I can be your guide, but I will not solve the enigma for you." E.P. 11.6.1994

    stand-offs: without fittings
    the lower spreader fittings moves up too


    and I try today a new weight... an M6*25 screw... about 6g and it backspin better(no more 2 BS with one input :-O ) and yoyos are like before :H:


    so I'll update the plans tomorrow

    @Skyforce: Okay - what fittings do you use for the "sail end"; just to give some thing to meassure by.


    Looking forward to the update :-O


    ;) Morten

    Hi Skyforce


    I just saw that you have updated the plan regarding the center-T and length of lower spreaders. I also noticed that the distance "Nez - APA vergue" is still 95cm - shouldn't the fiting move up too ? -If so how much ? This is something that is quite hard to correct, so I'd like to have the right distance :)


    ;) Morten

    I have constructed the kite in 3d to study it a bit further (vented). So I could measure the distance in a front projection, the connectors should move up about 14 mm to keep the spreaders horizontal.
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    Erik

    "Kann ich bitte Deine Kekse haben?"

    Zitat

    An SSSUUUL would be more intersting for me


    I can imagine! I've been on skiing holidays at Moléson last February, there was absolutely no wind for 10 days.
    I live in Hamburg and autumn is approaching... But I'm thinking about both in fact.


    What would you use for an UL/SUL: P100, PT3, PT2? Leading edge and spreader.


    And, by the way, what would you think is the difference in flight characteristics if you replace the P300 with PT5 in the Standard? The PT series seems a bit stiffer to me.


    Erik

    "Kann ich bitte Deine Kekse haben?"

    For An UL/SUL, I don't know what sort of rods I can use... maybe 3pt but I can't figure what it would change in flight...


    But now I can't build anymore because we prepare our removal...

    @Erik: WOW - nice 3D model! :O


    I have been thinking about using a 'Nirvana-frame' (P200+P300 LE and 5PT lower spreaders) in my Asmara, but if the stiffness is ok with all P300 it is of course cheaper ;)


    3PT would be my choice for a UL too.


    ;) Morten

    Meine geplanten Versionen:


    Asmara-UL:
    LK: P100
    UQS: P200 oder 3PT
    OQS: 5-5.5 mm
    Kiel: 6 mm


    für Asmara-SUL:
    LK: P-light
    UQS: 3PT
    OQS: 5 mm
    Kiel: 5 mm


    Würd das evtl. gehen, oder ist das völliger Mist?


    und eben, alles erst Planung. Ich hoffe, dass ich bis Weihnachten wenigstens einen fertig kriege.


    Zuerst baue ich mal noch eine neue Waage für den Asmara (ich hab noch keinen Namen für diese Waage, da ich so eine Waage noch nie gesehen hab :-O , vielleicht wurde sie ja schon einmal entwickelt, war aber nicht erfolgreich und deshalb aus dem Verkehr gezogen).


    Gruss
    koebi-lee

    "Perhaps I can be your guide, but I will not solve the enigma for you." E.P. 11.6.1994

    Zitat

    An vented version??? I don't need one where I live

    Reminder: Vercorin 16./17.07.2005 :-O :-O


    Gruss
    koebi-lee

    "Perhaps I can be your guide, but I will not solve the enigma for you." E.P. 11.6.1994

    @Erik: I think you have made a minor mistake in the update regarding the placement of the lower spreaders on the LE. The original distance was 95cm from nose to spreader, the spreaders should be moved 14mm towards the nose = 93.6cm, and not 96.4 ?


    Best regards


    ;) Morten

    Spars on my Asmara SUL


    LE Skyshark P 90
    Upper Spereader 4mm EXCEL
    Lower Spreader Skyshark 2PT
    Spine Skyshark P90
    Standoffs 3mm EXCEL


    LE connectors APPA Tinny
    8g Weight top on the spine.


    It works great.

    Learning to fly :)